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| Tire suggestions I want to upgrade the tires on my suzuki vinson 500 auto. Has to be good on the hard trail, but also need something good in the mud, climbing loose rock, creek crossing as well. Basically an all around tire,, any suggestions? | | |  | Mar 26th, 08, 09:49 PM | | Mississppi Mud Join Date: Feb 2008
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| the swamplite sounds great for that.. great trail tire and dig deep in mud | | |  | Mar 27th, 08, 02:08 AM | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008
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| Swampltes are the tire you are looking for.
You won't regret it. | | |  | Mar 27th, 08, 06:31 AM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crossville,TN
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| Maxxis Bighorns! They will outlast any tire out there. They go very well too. | | |  | Mar 27th, 08, 08:23 AM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: moulton,alabama
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Originally Posted by Bootlegger Maxxis Bighorns! They will outlast any tire out there. They go very well too. X2 they're a great all terrain tire IMO. | | |  | Mar 27th, 08, 07:02 PM | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008
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| thanks for the help ill be looking into those tires tonite | | |  | Mar 27th, 08, 08:11 PM | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Troy, Wisconsin
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| Also the Titan 589's are worth a look. I've got them on my Vinson, and they work great for all purposes. Also, they were quite a bit cheaper than the ITP 589's...that helped sell me | | |  | Apr 27th, 08, 12:13 AM | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Springfield, GA
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| kind of starting over without actually starting a new tread.
what would be a prefered tire for me. ya'll know i like deep thick mud, light mud, mushy, and trail/woods ridin. exposed to stumps, roots, rocks, and i ride in a near-by logging sire. i'm looking for tough and hard gripping, that cleans out good, has mediocer reverse traction. light wieght, sidewall tread, and rides good. i'll settle for a little bump but i don't want a rough ride like that of a maxxis mudzilla
589s m/s 25"
maxxis mudbugs 25"
itp mudlite xls 25"
i've looked up these tires and i am leaning towards these 3. i likes the vampires but they were too weak of ply and weight more than i was willin to add on. the maxxis zilla being so light sets me off to believe it to be a weaker tire (prone to punctures). i think the mudbugs will do better in mud but the 589s are a true 6 ply. i would like advice from those who have rode on these and what they would think woukld suite me more | | |  | Apr 27th, 08, 12:37 AM | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: red lake ontario
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| I just mounted a set of 28" mudbugs on my bike I had 27" vampires. I will let you Know how they work. | | |  | Apr 27th, 08, 08:46 AM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crossville,TN
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Originally Posted by CottonMouth kind of starting over without actually starting a new tread.
what would be a prefered tire for me. ya'll know i like deep thick mud, light mud, mushy, and trail/woods ridin. exposed to stumps, roots, rocks, and i ride in a near-by logging sire. i'm looking for tough and hard gripping, that cleans out good, has mediocer reverse traction. light wieght, sidewall tread, and rides good. i'll settle for a little bump but i don't want a rough ride like that of a maxxis mudzilla
589s m/s 25"
maxxis mudbugs 25"
itp mudlite xls 25"
i've looked up these tires and i am leaning towards these 3. i likes the vampires but they were too weak of ply and weight more than i was willin to add on. the maxxis zilla being so light sets me off to believe it to be a weaker tire (prone to punctures). i think the mudbugs will do better in mud but the 589s are a true 6 ply. i would like advice from those who have rode on these and what they would think woukld suite me more Maxxis Mud Bugs! Mudlites the side wall is too thin. | | |  | Apr 30th, 08, 12:11 PM | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: southeastern PA
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| If your running in rocky areas stay away from the mudlites, the sidewalls are prone to punctures. I've ridden with guys that had em and were always getting holes in the sidewall. I have the Kenda Executioners on my bike and love em. Tough sidewall and bead protection. | | |  | Apr 30th, 08, 04:58 PM | | larrydaytona Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: florida
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| Swamplites #1
Good luck
You won't regret it. | | |  | Apr 30th, 08, 09:25 PM | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Springfield, GA
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| i have heard the kendas are tough but not my brand and i really am not intrested in their execuioner. if i buy a brand it'll prob be the 3 listed and more likey the mud bugs or 589s | | |  | Apr 30th, 08, 10:11 PM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crossville,TN
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| Like Mudslinger and I both stated. If you ride in any rock stay away from Mudlites. I like the tires..... just seen alot of this happen first hand. | | |  | May 1st, 08, 09:09 AM | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Forrest City, AR
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| I would not buy swamplites or mudlites. 589's have great foward pulling abilities but not mud side bite. I've never rode with anyone with mudbugs, but almost bught some because I have heard such good things. Mudgear are a good allterrain and are tough... a little heavy. Noone ever mentions Mudtrax, but i will tell you first hand that those tires are awesome. Great cleaning abilities and a tough tire. Will impress you in the mud and do great on the trail. To my knowledge, the biggest you can get is 26X11-12. That would be just right. Not too big. | | |  | May 1st, 08, 09:40 AM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crossville,TN
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Originally Posted by Bootlegger Who make Mudtrax???
STI, I like the Mudtrax, take a look at the side lugs. Looks like they would do really well in mud.  | | |  | May 1st, 08, 05:51 PM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crossville,TN
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| i looked at those but from what i see it is forward directional tire and dosen't really have the "scooped" tread. but don't get me wrong still a good lookin tire. similar to stck rhino tires | | |  | May 1st, 08, 09:19 PM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crossville,TN
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| They do look alot like the Rhino stock Tire. | | |  | May 2nd, 08, 09:15 AM | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Forrest City, AR
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| I'll tell, they may resemble a stock tire, but they do very well. These tire would probably be in the same class as a MudGear, Mudrunner, Swamplite, Mudlite, maybe a Mudbug or even a Bear Claw. I'm here to tell ya, that I have ridden with friends that have MudGear, Swamplites and Mudlites and Mudtrax at the same time and of all those tires, I would have to go with the Mudtrax. Of all listed, in order, my last two tire picks would be Mudlite and Swamplite. I personally have BearClaws and Mudrunners and they have served we well too. The only complaint I have with a lot of these tires is that they are not true to size. I have never riden with anyone who had MudBugs, but even then I would still choose them over the ML and SL. Now keep in mind, that I ride a 350 Rancher 2wd and my brother rides a 420 2wd and of the 7 tires I listed, we've riden with 4 of the 7 on 2wd's. Now if these tires can keep a 2wd running with the 4wd's, then I would think that they would do even better on a 4wd. Just my 2 cents worth. | | |  | May 3rd, 08, 01:01 AM | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Springfield, GA
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| ya know i've been doin some thinkin. i'm really thinkin bout those 589s. the reasons, are is cause they are a true 6 ply, a buddy of mine has them on his 420 rancher but he has 10 wide in front and 12 wide in rear. i'd go with the 8s in the front and 10s in the rear. less rollin resitance and weight. anyway his turns them tire preety easily and i've seen them go threw some pretty deep stuff. but to be honest the things that i'd prefer is if thye were lighter (not like they ain't light anyway), i wish they had some sidewall tread, and i wish they was cheaper.
the mud bugs i think would do great in that bottomless muck but thy wont wear as good as the 589s and i don't know if they will be able to take the abuse the 589s can take. but i don't know still thinkin
another reason why is online i hear alot of good things bout the 589s in reviews on atv mags and stuff. i NEVER see anything on the mudbugs except from ppl on here and a couple of ppl who own them. but never have ridin with someone's whose had them | | |  | May 3rd, 08, 07:42 AM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crossville,TN
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Originally Posted by CottonMouth ya know i've been doin some thinkin. i'm really thinkin bout those 589s. the reasons, are is cause they are a true 6 ply, a buddy of mine has them on his 420 rancher but he has 10 wide in front and 12 wide in rear. i'd go with the 8s in the front and 10s in the rear. less rollin resitance and weight. anyway his turns them tire preety easily and i've seen them go threw some pretty deep stuff. but to be honest the things that i'd prefer is if thye were lighter (not like they ain't light anyway), i wish they had some sidewall tread, and i wish they was cheaper.
the mud bugs i think would do great in that bottomless muck but thy wont wear as good as the 589s and i don't know if they will be able to take the abuse the 589s can take. but i don't know still thinkin
another reason why is online i hear alot of good things bout the 589s in reviews on atv mags and stuff. i NEVER see anything on the mudbugs except from ppl on here and a couple of ppl who own them. but never have ridin with someone's whose had them
The 589's are a heavy tire. They dowear pretty good though. | | |  | May 3rd, 08, 07:43 AM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crossville,TN
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| IF you ride alot in the mud just get some Vampires or Outlaws....then your set.
Just remember the 28 inch Vampire EDL's are a Mud Only Tire. | | |  | May 3rd, 08, 03:01 PM | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Springfield, GA
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| i ain't gonna go with a tire that big. lol
the outlaws are too heavy but i have looked at vampires but not sure i want to dedicate that much to mud. thats why i was think bugs, 589s or lites. gotta while to make my decission but like i said before those'll be my 3 choices | | |  | May 5th, 08, 09:53 AM | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas
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| You want tough and a good overall trail and mud tire look at the mudgears. | | |  | May 5th, 08, 10:34 AM | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Forrest City, AR
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| I'll say it again... if you are looking for a tough long lasting tire, then stay away from the swamplite. The 589's have better pulling power than the swamplites too, just not much side bite. Are the Outlaws that much heavier than the 589's? Just asking. | | |  | May 5th, 08, 10:38 AM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crossville,TN
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| Outlaws probaly ain't that much heavier.....Cause the 589's are a Heavy tire. | | |  | May 5th, 08, 02:14 PM | | larrydaytona Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: florida
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| Take a look at the Swamplites. I can't say how well they perform.
I put them on my polaris and was totally impressed with the performance.
They are a true 6 ply and are not a heavy tire. Just don't ride them on
the pavement alot, They won't wear out so fast. Good luck with your
decision.
2000 Polaris Sportsman 500
Swamplites 25s
2008 BMX 300 4x4
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| bootlegger you are right. the outlaws aren't as heavier than the 589s. 589s are just a few lbs heavier than the 589s, but the 589s alow me to go with a 8 in the front while the outlaws made 9.50 as their narrowist tire. if they made a 8 in the front and 10 in the rear i would buy them in a heartbeat. cause actually they aren't that heavy it's just the size they offer is what makes them so heavy. last i checked the 25-9.5-12 is only 26 lbs. i would put those on my rear with no prob but the front no way. thats nearly 75% weight increase on front tires from my stock mudlites. thats they way i am basin my tire weights by percentages. if i got with 589s or mudlites or mudbugs all i would gain is a maximum of 35% on front and 30% on rear. kind of corny but that the way i do it
i also went to the arctic cat dealer up the road just to see what kind of tires they are and what sizes they have and what size lugs. i ain't gonna get swamplites. really thinkin bout mudlite xls, 589s or mudbugs. i've got my mind set on them and i can get a preety good deal on them | | |  | |