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 |  Apr 20th, 06, 07:38 PM | | Beer Wagon Driver STAFF Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DFW, Tx.
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| Took the Brute riding this past weekend and ran into a rather interesting and perplexing problem which I thought other snorkeled-quad owners would benefit from hearing about.
When I pull my bikes down the road (there are usually between 3 and 6 of them on the trailer) I tie them down extremely securely (minimum 4 straps per bike).... With that said, I drive like a freakin maniac to get where I'm going (70-90 miles per hour).
Until this last trip that didn't pose any problem, when I arrived at the park Thursday evening the Brute wouldnt start! The machine acted as though it was hydro-locked and wouldn't turn over at all. After giving it a few moments to settle, it finally cranked and gave me no further problems the rest of the time we were there. Upon returning home, taking it off the trailer... IT DID IT AGAIN!!! I was PISSED!
When it finally did crank this time it smoked like a BEAST.... and didn't stop for some time. A good buddy of mine (Scribner, who also has a snorked brute) informed me this was a problem he too had experienced.
The snorkel (sticking up in the air as it does) will take in air while flying down the road at a rate that exceeds reason. This will in turn flood the carb, and therefore the front cylinder and cause a sort of "reversed vapor lock" which will not allow the engine to start.
A simple solution to this is to break into the fuel line between the tank and the front carb and put in a fuel shut-off valve.... or, install a clean-out plug into the snorkel that can be un-screwed by hand before and after trailering the machine. (or a rubber plug/rag stuffed up into it) will probably do as well.
I hope this helps others avoid the CRAP I went through this weekend with this.... If you have any further questions please holla at me or Scrib.
Ride Safe,
Chuck | | |  | Apr 20th, 06, 08:59 PM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida
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| Have you tried it yet Crane?
No problem for the advice,thats what this site is for | | | | Apr 20th, 06, 09:01 PM | | Hi! STAFF Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lower Arkansas
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| Probably a good idea to cover the holes in transportation or any time, just to keep odd things from landing in there. Just imagine a piece of plastic or something slipping into that hole while driving. Yo coudl spend days trying to find and fix that bogging down problem. 
Good topic for all ATV'ers | | | | Apr 20th, 06, 09:12 PM | | Beer Wagon Driver STAFF Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DFW, Tx.
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| Havn't tried it yet... but I think I'm going to opt for the glue-in 2" threaded clean-out fitting on the snork itself... that way i can just unthread it by hand each time and throw it in the toolbox. Will give an update next time i trailer the bike. | | | | Apr 20th, 06, 11:09 PM | | bead thrower Join Date: Jan 2006
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| could just buy a machine with a fuel cut off on it  | | | | Apr 21st, 06, 10:45 PM | | Beer Wagon Driver STAFF Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DFW, Tx.
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| Brute actually has a fuel cut-off... believe it or not.
It's not designed for daily use... you have to remove the igniter under the seat and use a screwdriver, but there is one.
Not exactly what i'd call a convenient device... but it exists. | | | | Apr 21st, 06, 10:59 PM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida
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| I have seen that before but didnt want to touch it...figured a brass shut off valve worked just as good | | | | Apr 22nd, 06, 12:11 AM | | Beer Wagon Driver STAFF Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DFW, Tx.
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| Oh, i wouldn't ever use it either other than in case of emergency or carb work..... just lettin ole Red know there was one. | | | | Apr 23rd, 06, 12:08 AM | | Almighty Supercook Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Key West
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| Or, you could put a piece of freakin duct tape over the snorkel. Problem solved, cheaper and easier and installing cov's and drain plugs and all that crap. Mabye I'm just over simplifying the problem? | | | | Apr 23rd, 06, 12:16 AM | | Hi! STAFF Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lower Arkansas
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Originally Posted by MuddinCoastie Or, you could put a piece of freakin duct tape over the snorkel. Problem solved, cheaper and easier and installing cov's and drain plugs and all that crap. Mabye I'm just over simplifying the problem? Can look at it in two ways. You can use the screw in plugs over and over which should be cheaper in the long run.
In Cranes situation, much like mine, every trip to go ride is over 100 miles on a trailer. | | | | Apr 23rd, 06, 12:21 AM | | Almighty Supercook Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Key West
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Originally Posted by Mike Can look at it in two ways. You can use the screw in plugs over and over which should be cheaper in the long run.
In Cranes situation, much like mine, every trip to go ride is over 100 miles on a trailer. Until you loose the plug, strip it out (to much beer) or even worse, forget to put it back in. Then you're screwed.  | | | | Apr 23rd, 06, 12:50 AM | | Hi! STAFF Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lower Arkansas
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| good point, but if I am that drunk, I am probably forgetting the tape anyway. | | | | Apr 23rd, 06, 11:11 AM | | Beer Wagon Driver STAFF Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DFW, Tx.
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| LMAO... duct tape would work in a pinch i'm sure.
For that matter just shoving a rag up in it would too.
I may just go get a rubber clamp-on cap and forget the rest. | | | | Apr 23rd, 06, 03:23 PM | | Almighty Supercook Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Key West
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Originally Posted by Ccrane LMAO... duct tape would work in a pinch i'm sure.
For that matter just shoving a rag up in it would too.
I may just go get a rubber clamp-on cap and forget the rest. Even better. Remember, the more simple it is, the less that can go wrong at the worst time possible. | | | | Apr 23rd, 06, 04:45 PM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida
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| Duct tape wont work for Crane...He will get drunk and forget to pull it off and then suck that into the carbs..then I will be getting a phone call at 2:00 in the morning from a drunk guy trying to tell me what his bike is doing...LOL | | | | Apr 23rd, 06, 06:23 PM | | Hi! STAFF Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lower Arkansas
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| Leaving a redirect for this in the Kawasaki forum, but moving the thread into general ATV discussion. This is something good for everybody to see. | | | | Apr 23rd, 06, 09:03 PM | | Almighty Supercook Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Key West
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Originally Posted by Scribner Duct tape wont work for Crane...He will get drunk and forget to pull it off and then suck that into the carbs..then I will be getting a phone call at 2:00 in the morning from a drunk guy trying to tell me what his bike is doing...LOL LMFAO I can almost hear that conversation now. | | | | Apr 24th, 06, 10:30 PM | | Beer Wagon Driver STAFF Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DFW, Tx.
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Originally Posted by Mike Leaving a redirect for this in the Kawasaki forum, but moving the thread into general ATV discussion. This is something good for everybody to see. I WAS ABOUT TO SAY.... Dangit, I know darn well I wasn't that drunk, I THOUGHT I put that in the Kawi Forum.....LMFAO | | | | Apr 24th, 06, 11:40 PM | | Almighty Supercook Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Key West
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| It's ok Chuck. We've all been there. | | | |
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