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Old Nov 21st, 06, 01:50 PM
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November 20, 2006
BAKER CITY, Ore. -- An Idaho man acted in self-defense when he shot a man who was headed toward him in an all-terrain vehicle, a Baker County grand jury decided.

Marvin Sauer, 52, of Boise shot Everett Durst, 38, of Vancouver, Wash., in the left leg following a Labor Day dispute near Phillips Reservoir.

The incident started when Sauer and his wife arrived to camp in an area where Durst and his party were riding. The sides had a disagreement and Durst later drove a quad runner to Sauer's campsite.
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Old Nov 21st, 06, 07:30 PM
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Bad link. Won't post a comment till I can read the whole article.
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Camper cleared in shooting of ATV driver


09:22 PM PST on Monday, November 20, 2006

BAKER CITY, Ore. -- An Idaho man acted in self-defense when he shot a man who was headed toward him in an all-terrain vehicle, a Baker County grand jury decided.

Marvin Sauer, 52, of Boise shot Everett Durst, 38, of Vancouver, Wash., in the left leg following a Labor Day dispute near Phillips Reservoir.
The incident started when Sauer and his wife arrived to camp in an area where Durst and his party were riding. The sides had a disagreement and Durst later drove a quad runner to Sauer's campsite.
Durst began spinning the vehicle in circles, stirring up dust and throwing rocks on Sauer's wife, said Matt Shirtcliff, the Baker County district attorney. Shirtcliff said Sauer fired a warning a shot into the air. Durst stopped spinning the vehicle in circles and started driving in Sauer's direction.
"Once Mr. Durst drove the quad runner straight at Mr. Sauer, Sauer was entitled at that point to fire his gun at Mr. Durst to defend himself," Shirtcliff said.
Durst's thighbone was damaged in the shooting, and a metal rod was inserted in his leg, Shirtcliff said.
The grand jury deliberated for seven hours before clearing Sauer on
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Old Nov 21st, 06, 07:50 PM
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I guarantee he won't be driving at anybody anymore. LOL
My biggest question is, why would you camp where somebody's riding their ATV's?
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Also why would you drive at somebody when they have a gun?..Hell even im not that dumb
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Old Nov 22nd, 06, 12:08 AM
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The artical really doesn't give me enought info to make any judgements, but one thing I know is both of these guys screwed up what was supposed to be a fun time. Incendents like these are what tends to shut down good riding areas for everyone. They are both losers in my book. They need to grow up and act their age.
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Old Nov 22nd, 06, 05:22 PM
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The artical really doesn't give me enought info to make any judgements, but one thing I know is both of these guys screwed up what was supposed to be a fun time. Incendents like these are what tends to shut down good riding areas for everyone. They are both losers in my book. They need to grow up and act their age.
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Old Nov 23rd, 06, 12:17 PM
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Old Dec 7th, 06, 11:34 PM
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The problem with the article it they failed to mention all the facts.

The Durst party chose to ride in a designated wildlife habitat area. This area is well posted that "No motorized vehicles are to be used off graveled spurs". The Durst party should not have been in the area. That does not give anyone the right to shoot them but it does set the stage for the conflict they initiated.

If we do not police ourselves and prevent the abuse of protected areas we will lose the privledge to ride on any public land.
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Mr. Durst should consider himself quite lucky.

Had I been in Mr. Sauer's position.... the grand jury would have been deliberating over a murder case.

You ride a quad into my campsite you better be one of three things....

1. a friend of mine
2. bringing beer with you
3. heavily armed

The sumbitch got much less than what he deserved. PERIOD.


I do agree with dirtrider and muddbugg... this sort of thing is what gives the ATV community a bad reputation. However... as a concealed handgun carrier... my view of this is: Sooner or later situations such as these will make more people think, before they attack somebody... you just never know when they might be carrying a firearm.

I applaud Mr. Sauer for not becoming, or allowing his family to become victims.

Ride Safe,

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Old Dec 23rd, 06, 06:52 PM
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Sounds like he brought a knife to a gun fight. An ATV is just a deadly as the gun. What was he thinking. It just makes law abiding people like "most" of us look bad.
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Mr. Durst should consider himself quite lucky.

Had I been in Mr. Sauer's position.... the grand jury would have been deliberating over a murder case.

You ride a quad into my campsite you better be one of three things....

1. a friend of mine
2. bringing beer with you
3. heavily armed

The sumbitch got much less than what he deserved. PERIOD.


I do agree with dirtrider and muddbugg... this sort of thing is what gives the ATV community a bad reputation. However... as a concealed handgun carrier... my view of this is: Sooner or later situations such as these will make more people think, before they attack somebody... you just never know when they might be carrying a firearm.

I applaud Mr. Sauer for not becoming, or allowing his family to become victims.

Ride Safe,

Chuck
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Old Nov 26th, 07, 09:26 PM
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thats to bad sombody got hurt,but sounds like the idiot got what he deserved.theres one in every crowd.
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Mr. Durst should consider himself quite lucky.

Had I been in Mr. Sauer's position.... the grand jury would have been deliberating over a murder case.

You ride a quad into my campsite you better be one of three things....

1. a friend of mine
2. bringing beer with you
3. heavily armed

The sumbitch got much less than what he deserved. PERIOD.


I do agree with dirtrider and muddbugg... this sort of thing is what gives the ATV community a bad reputation. However... as a concealed handgun carrier... my view of this is: Sooner or later situations such as these will make more people think, before they attack somebody... you just never know when they might be carrying a firearm.

I applaud Mr. Sauer for not becoming, or allowing his family to become victims.

Ride Safe,

Chuck
X2----- i just wonder if Mr. Sauer had a Sig Sauer.
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Old Nov 27th, 07, 10:37 AM
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That just goes to show you just because you own a quad it doesn't make you smart. Pretty stupid move on his part, someone fires a shot in the air all he's gonna see of me are tailights in a zig zag pattern to make a tougher target.
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Old Nov 29th, 07, 07:36 PM
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That just goes to show you just because you own a quad it doesn't make you smart. Pretty stupid move on his part, someone fires a shot in the air all he's gonna see of me are tailights in a zig zag pattern to make a tougher target.
right on...ride on..the guy was retarded, anyone can agree to that. hope the prosecute the aggressor, no telling what he would have done after running over the husband. I would have done the same thing.
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