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Old Apr 18th, 07, 01:42 PM
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Driver who lost license fights for right to use ATV (West Virginia)

April 18, 2007
by Justin Anderson
Daily Mail staff

Riding an all-terrain vehicle doesn't require a driver's license. But state Supreme Court justices soon have to settle whether someone can be prosecuted for riding one with a revoked driver's license.

Roane County Circuit Judge David Nibert already has said the answer is no.

The judge dismissed a felony indictment against Robert L. Sarver for third-offense driving while his license was revoked for drunken driving and other violations. Police caught Sarver riding his ATV, ran a check on his license and found it was no good.

Now the Supreme Court has agreed to hear the county prosecutor's appeal. They agreed, 3-2, to hear the matter. Justices Larry Starcher and Joseph Albright voted against.

Justices have to decide in what instances an ATV is considered a "motor vehicle." They will hear arguments next month from Roane Prosecutor Mark Sergent.

"The Legislature in passing an all-terrain vehicle regulation did not intend to reward a previously revoked or suspended driver with the ‘new' right to operate an all-terrain vehicle as a substitute for a motorcycle, car or truck," Sergent wrote in his petition asking justices to negate Nibert's ruling.

The case evokes memories of country singer George Jones, who famously took a riding lawnmower eight miles to a liquor store after his wife took his car keys to prevent him from consuming alcohol.

The ATV case before the Supreme Court originated in 2005 when Sarver was indicted by a grand jury after sheriff's deputies allegedly spotted him riding an ATV on Ambler Ridge Road and across U.S. 119 near Walton, court records show.

A check on Sarver's driver's license proved it was revoked for seven violations spanning from 1989 to 2002. The violations included three DUIs, two instances of Sarver's having no insurance, and an unpaid citation.

During court proceedings, Sarver's court-appointed public defender, Teresa Monk, filed a motion to dismiss the indictment and for Nibert to clarify the relevant law. The state objected.

In December, Nibert ruled that a person couldn't violate the license revocation law by driving an ATV.

Nibert ordered the indictment dismissed but stayed the decision until Sergent could perfect his petition for appeal.

Sergent argues in his petition that lawmakers define an ATV as a motor vehicle in state code. The law under which Sarver was indicted says a person can't operate a motor vehicle while his or her license is revoked.

A person driving an ATV drunkenly also can be prosecuted under the state drunken driving statutes, Sergent points out.

Article Reference: Charleston Daily Mail
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Old Apr 18th, 07, 03:45 PM
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Drunk drivers kill people. Why should he be allowed to operate an atv where a liscence is required without one just because he wants to? How could we be sure that he won't get drunk and ride his atv down the street and run over somebody and hurt or kill that person?
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I am curious to see how this turns out.
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third-offense driving while his license was revoked for drunken driving and other violations.
This guy shouldn't even be allowed to ride the bus.

He should have to walk EVERYWHERE he goes until his license is returned.

I'll be the first to admit I've driven home after a couple of beers.... but "third-offense" tells me this fella needs to be taught a lesson.

I was present at one ride when a fella lost control of his ATV (after drinking all-day-long) skid across a public gravel road, and hit a tree/fence. When he woke up he was issued a DWI....

If that is legal... why should this guy be allowed to ride an ATV on public roads after driving a 2-ton vehicle under the influence?

I'm getting sick to my stomach.
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High Court: ATVs off limits to drivers with suspended licenses

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High Court: ATVs off limits to drivers with suspended licenses

Friday June 8, 2007

CHARLESTON -- All motorized automobiles, including all-terrain vehicles, are off limits to West Virginians whose driver's licenses are suspended or revoked, the state Supreme Court has ruled.

In a unanimous opinion issued Wednesday, the Supreme Court of Appeals of West Virginia overturned a circuit judge's dismissal of a May 2005 indictment against Robert L. Sarver.

Sarver was accused of operating an ATV on a county road in April 2004 after he lost his license following a third-offense drunken driving charge.

The state Supreme Court determined that Roane County Circuit Judge David W. Nibert erred in December 2005 when he dismissed the indictment against Sarver. Nibert's ruling was based on state law not requiring ATV operators to have a license to operate on a public highway.

But the high court noted that driving is a privilege, and driver's licenses that grant such a privilege apply to any and all modes of transportation that are motorized.

"With the revocation of his operator's license, Mr. Sarver lost his privilege to operate any motor vehicle, which includes an all-terrain vehicle, on the public highways of this state," Justice Joseph Albright wrote in the opinion.

Article Reference: Local News: High Court: ATVs off limits to drivers with suspended licenses <span class="story_bodycopy"> <p>CHARLESTON -- All motorized automobiles, including all-terrain vehicles, are off limits to West Virginians whose driver's licenses are suspend
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Now that this particular situation is settled... I'd like to bring another to light....

A local man was recently arrested and issued a DWI (Driving While Under the Influence) after being apprehended on his GOLF CART.

He knew he was far too intoxicated to drive his vehicle home, so he took the property owner's golf cart and headed alongside the 5 mile stretch of road home.

A local police officer pulled over and apprehended this individual, and issued him a DWI...

What I'm Wondering:

DWI, DUI, and other Drunk Driving offenses were created in order to protect the general public... (we all know of the story of George Jones riding the lawnmower to the store and back)

My question is - if these individuals are not posing a risk to the general public (not running on the actual roadways or with the flow of traffic) should they be held in violation of these laws?

Please think before you respond... no sparks or flames needed here... just posing a hypothetical question.

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I had to think about this one for awhile. While Im all about living free and having a good time while out on the trail I dont think it should come at the potential to harm someone else. a couple drinks is fine but when people start getting plastered and drive (even an atv or golf cart) is where I would have to draw the line. most of the time you are not riding by yourself but with others. if you lose control or do something stupid you run the chance of not only injury to yourself but to someone else youre riding with. and even if you are riding by yourself you could come across others on the trail or usually you are headed somewhere...there are usually people and possibly small childern where you are going...

My point is I guess that someones life is worth more than having that extra beer (or five).
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