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 |  Aug 12th, 07, 03:55 AM | | Ken Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Coleman Texas
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|  New here, just thought I wood make an introduction
Hello all.This is my debut to your sight, and I wish to make a good impression.I am 51 years old and weigh in at about 196.At this time I o not have a 4 wheeler.I am looking at the Yamaha 350 4x4 IRS. Either this or a compatible Polaris.The one thing that bothers me is that Yamaha may make a quality machine, they do not know a thing about making oil.I asked a local dealer about this topic and was told that if you used anything but their lube the warranty would be canceled.I do not want to start an oil dispute but I use Amsoil in all my engines.I live in central Texas. In my spare time I enjoy the outdoors when not to hot. This leads me back to the oil again. Here it can get very hot during the summer months. Would it be beneficial and safer for me to get a liquid cooled ATV?I like the idea about the Yamaha and have read several good things about it.My dealer is close by. I intend to use this machine to go camping. Here is what I would put on it. Tent (4 person) and sleeping bag, Coleman stove, small cooler,blankets small Stihl chain saw,my black powder 44, folding chairs,axes, shovel. I would like to find an empty place near a stream set up camp, and forget the worlds problems.I would like all forms of input. Remember to, (what we used to say to the guys on sleds in NY), keep the rubber side down) Ken | | |  | Aug 12th, 07, 06:58 AM | | Mudpuddlin' Darlin' STAFF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: AR
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|  ken and glad to have you aboard 
Lots of Yami owners on the site so I'm sure you'll get lots of opinions... 
My opinion... I've got a 2004 Polaris 700 Sportsman and so does my spouse, parents, and both brothers...So in all we've got a total of 5. I was new to riding once and was talked into getting this bike and I'm sure glad I did. I've had the chance to ride a few other brands and I still like the ease and comfort of the Polaris. It has a much smoother ride than the others I've ridden and have heard people comment on this as well. I extremely love the mud and ride in it whenever I can, but being in Texas, mud is not always an option for me, therefore I do ride many trails. My bike is basically still stock except for adding the bumpers (which I highly recommend). I am VERY ROUGH with my Polaris, but whatever I throw at it, it seems to take it. Knock on wood, I've had no real trouble except the trouble that I've caused myself. And as with any bike, you must get to know it and learn the feel of it while riding. Once you do that, you'll know how to handle it in various situations. I've been in some sticky situations and it handles EXTREMELY well. The Polaris steers with ease and is very easy to navigate. Polaris is becoming very popular and more and more people are realizing the versatility of it. All in all, in my opinion, the Polaris is the way to go....the ultimate decision is yours and sometimes you just have to go with your instincts and choose the one that you think you will be happy with.
Just my 
Enjoy the ride  | | | | Aug 12th, 07, 08:29 AM | | ARTICCAT500 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: sulphur, LA
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| welcome to the site. My best advise on a new wheeler is to do your homework. Read the forums they will give you great insight on the different atvs. Try to test ride the bikes you think you are intrested in and try them on the type of riding you are wanting to do. This is hard to accomplish unless you have freinds with bikes that will let you try them out. Riding around at the dealer is ok but it won't give you a true feel for the bike. good luck with your search and let us know which bike wins. | | | | Aug 12th, 07, 10:01 AM | | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: L.A. (Lower Alabama0
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| I just saw reviews on the 350. I think it was on one of those atv shows and it got great reviews both as a beginner atv and an all around atv. THe only thing they said it lacked was a low gear. Sounds like you are gonna have fun when you do purchase one. Good luck and happy trails. | | | | Aug 12th, 07, 10:14 PM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crossville,TN
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| I work for Yamaha and the oil thing is a LIE. You can use your Amsoil. just don't break it in with any synthetic oil though. your rings will not seat properly, the synthetic is to slick. after 150 miles you can use anything you want.
Mark | | | | Aug 12th, 07, 10:40 PM | | Ken Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Coleman Texas
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| Bluerider, The man at the Yamaha shop told me in specific terms that this would cancel the warranty. I suspect that he is misinformed. Thanks for the replies to all, Ken | | | | Aug 13th, 07, 05:50 AM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crossville,TN
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Originally Posted by kenskip1  Bluerider, The man at the Yamaha shop told me in specific terms that this would cancel the warranty. I suspect that he is misinformed. Thanks for the replies to all, Ken He's full of  he is just trying to get you to buy his oil.  | | | | Aug 13th, 07, 08:23 AM | | Who's your daddy?!?!?! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Iota, LA
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| Welcome to the bog, they told me the same thing about the 2 hondas that I own, they told me that I have to use the Honda oil only, but I been using Castrol and they never noticed. | | | | Aug 13th, 07, 10:29 AM | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Royse City, Texas
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| Don't listen to the dealer about the oil. What are they going to do. Take it out and test it!!!!! I own a yamaha and have never put YAMALUBE in mine, with the exception of the break in oil. And the dealer has never said a work about it. | | | | Aug 13th, 07, 12:02 PM | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas
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| My Honda dealer said the same crap, I read my manual and it states any oil which meets their specifications. Brand didn't matter, ask to see the manual then and there, look up the oil and see what it says, if it say (or equivilant) ask him how using an equivilant as stated in the manual could void the warranty. Then ask him to show it to you in writing. | | | | Aug 13th, 07, 10:31 PM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crossville,TN
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Originally Posted by bigdaddynate Don't listen to the dealer about the oil. What are they going to do. Take it out and test it!!!!! I own a yamaha and have never put YAMALUBE in mine, with the exception of the break in oil. And the dealer has never said a work about it. Actually I have heard of of Yamaha and Honda both testing oil to see if it was there's. on some repeat warranty work. and that is no It wa done to a Yamaha dealer in the next town west of us, on a Yamaha R1 warranty issue. | | | | Aug 13th, 07, 10:33 PM | | Super Moderator STAFF Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crossville,TN
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Originally Posted by bigdaddynate Don't listen to the dealer about the oil. What are they going to do. Take it out and test it!!!!! I own a yamaha and have never put YAMALUBE in mine, with the exception of the break in oil. And the dealer has never said a work about it. Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishmstr My Honda dealer said the same crap, I read my manual and it states any oil which meets their specifications. Brand didn't matter, ask to see the manual then and there, look up the oil and see what it says, if it say (or equivilant) ask him how using an equivilant as stated in the manual could void the warranty. Then ask him to show it to you in writing. I have never seen Yamaha void a warranty because of oil. If you have a good dealer warranty should not be a problem. | | | | Aug 17th, 07, 11:27 PM | | Member Join Date: Jun 2007
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| Ken, I believe you can use your oil just make sure its motorcycle oil car oil will not make your bike last. anti friction addatives in car oil are not good for your tranny in a bike. remember they are the same in a bike. What every bike you choose make sure it has a forced air oil cooler. I would buy a water cooled atv if it was me and I live in Houston. Exspecailly if you riding slow trails. An air cooled bike needs the speed to stay cool. Craig | | | | Aug 18th, 07, 12:29 AM | | Ken Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Coleman Texas
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| Grizz 600, This is a good point.I will be riding mostly trails and not at a fast pace.I will question my local dealer but I am sure that all he wants to do is make a sale.Does the Yamaha 350 have an oil cooler? Will I be able to mount a fan on it?These questions will need to be answered prior to my purchase. Thanks, Ken | | | | Aug 18th, 07, 10:04 AM | | Member Join Date: Jun 2007
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| dont worry about the oil cooler if its water cooled. My grzzly 600 has an oil cooler my wolvy is water cooled, dont know about the 350. I was in the honda shop the other day and over heard a sales man down playing water cooled bikes. He pointed to a 70 somthing street bike. there are arguments either way. My honda 200 & grizzly get real hot on my legs. my wolvy nowhere near as hot. | | | |
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